*at drivers test* of course I have experience driving sir I play Mario kart all the time
I’ve often wished I could use a blue shell in real life…
*at drivers test* of course I have experience driving sir I play Mario kart all the time
I’ve often wished I could use a blue shell in real life…
Meet the World’s Smallest Rabbit.
Columbia Basin Pygmy Rabbits are the world’s smallest and among the rarest.
I must have one!
This is sad DC killed off two of my favorite characters and didn’t bring one in to the new 52 thus making him dead or nonexistent
1. Damian Wayne (robin)
2. Chris kent (nightwing)
3. Dick Grayson (nightwing)
If Dick is dead, I’m sure it will only be for a minute or two. Luthor has something up his sleeve - if Batman will let him do whatever it is he’s planning.
Nightwing sketch! :) Messing with styles still.
How can anyone NOT love Josh Peck?!
That’s very true. I honestly don’t think Bruce realizes how much those comments can hurt, but his kids are more insecure than he realizes. Not just Jason. All of them. (Bruce generally seems to have the highest opinion of Cass, so I don’t know if she suffers from that particular insecurity, but she has her own insecurities, too.) He does more damage than he realizes.
Most parents do.
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Now there’s something I never thought I’d hear uttered.
Two words. Such simple words at that, and they carry so much weight in them. Atrocitus is right. He is completely justified in hating the Guardians, in wanting justice for his decimated zone and Hal admits that straight to his face. And then he points out where all that hatred and “righteous vengeance” goes wrong.
Hating those who’ve wronged you is not bad, nor is wanting justice for those who’ve been hurt. Trying to obtain that justice by ways of cataclysmic destruction is though. So is destroying innocents to get you’re revenge. Doing the exact same thing that the people who hurt you did, to others, no matter what your reasons are, is wrong.
Justified hatred and the quest for true justice are real and large parts of life that often get pushed aside in our desire to categorize everything into black and white. Doubly so in media marketed towards younger audiences.
Not here though.
Atrocitus is right. It’s his methods that are wrong.
It really impressed me that at the end of the first story arc we had it very clearly stated that while his methods may have been wrong, Atrocitus’s anger was right, and the Guardians’ past actions were horrifically in the wrong.
It is so incredibly important that these sort of messages —that good intentions can result in bad works, that bad actions don’t always mean the point behind them is entirely wrong, that everyone has within them the capacity for both right and wrong and actions have consequences— that the world is infinitely complex and formed of a myriad of colors, shades, and hues aside from a simple black and white, good versus evil palette make it into our “children’s shows”. If we can impress these sorts of thoughts and consideration of events and circumstance on a younger audience they’ll more likely to grow to be better and more considerate people who understand things are rarely (if ever) so simple as being just entirely right or entirely wrong. It’s crucial that our “children’s shows” treat their audience like people capable of thought and understanding nuance. People will grow to be what you expect of them. If you treat them as though they should not be able to think, they will not bother to.
EDIT: I encourage checking the notes of this post to see the various responses on this, because I think you can see how much the inclusion of this line and everything that lead to it meant to the Fanterns.
This show in general is surprisingly mature in its handling of the good/bad hero/villain dichotomy—I swear, when Ganthet said, “[H]istory is written, or unwritten, by the victors,” my brain about exploded not just because it’s just such a powerfully true statement, both in the real world and in the context of the show, but because it was the supposedly good guys who were guilty of covering up atrocities they’d committed. Not very often we get such nuanced treatment of villainy and heroism in media meant for children.
Yes, yes, and yes.
I love the realness of this show, that every action has a consequence, whether it be good or bad. That there is true evil in the universe, but that evil is caused by sin of others. That no one is exempt from suffering (even if they are pure, because the universe is broken by sin) so they must choose wisely - the pain of discipline or the pain or regret.
There is so much truth and wisdom in this show and I love it, and I love that this show is for the youngins, because the best quality entertainment should be for our children.
It’s such a powerful line in part because it demonstrates Hal’s development over the course of the first story arc. Truth be told, I wasn’t focusing a lot of my attention on Hal - since I was so engrossed with the other characters - until he said that line. Then it really hit me, the differences between Hal in episode 1 and Hal in episode 13.
Hal starts off as a self-assured force of justice in the universe. In other words, he knows he’s a hero and doesn’t seem to worry about much besides the task at hand. But his one-dimensional thinking can get him into trouble (like when he’s so focused on beating the ‘evil’ Atrocitus he forgets that there is a planet full of sentient life that needs rescuing).
Initially, Hal is a character that acts on personal instinct and pre-conceptions. Many of these pre-conceptions are based on the information he receives from the Guardians, and he accepts the Guardians at their word. He believes that the Guardians are inherently good (and by extension as a Green Lantern his actions justified) to the point where after his meeting with Cleric Loran in Ep. 7 he believes Atrocitus must be preaching propaganda, since he cannot yet envision the reality that the Guardians are capable of engineering a massacre. As a member of the Green Lantern Corps, he is expected to do what he is told and follow their protocol; yet he frequently earns the Guardians’ displeasure when he acts like a loose cannon.
No other Green Lantern in this show so far would have been able to embrace his or her enemy’s perspective and tell Atrocitus “You’re right.”
His ability to think outside the box, to break the rules and to empathize with others are what I admire most about him. In fact, many of the instances where Hal chooses diplomacy over violence results in a positive outcome down the line. Particularly, his decision to spare Razer’s life, rescue him from prison and make him a part of the crew might have tipped the scale in the campaign against the Red Lanterns. Razer ends up rescuing Hal, Kilowog and Aya at different times in the narrative, helping them to infiltrate the mainframe of Shard (albeit through his selfish act of running away), and using his technical expertise to accomplish their goals.
(Let’s not forget all the other Hal moments too: learning from the Nadari about the yellow stones and rescuing Kilowog, listening to Goggan’s story rather than write him off as crazy, etc.)
To me, this is the most powerful thing a main character can offer in the children’s show - the willingness to see things from another’s perspective, and the ability to admit when your viewpoint is wrong.
There’s also a lot to be said about the moral ramifications of Atrocitus’s actions (and motivations for his actions), but that will have to wait for another post…
Reblogging for some of the most gorgeous commentary ever.
The comments just keep getting better and better.
Back In November, The Vampire Diaries actor Steven McQueen tweeted that he had some superhero discussions with the creators of Arrow.Now in the following video, McQueen confirms it’s for Nightwing, and says he is still waiting to hear about it.”I’m shooting a show called Vampire Diaries right now, and hopefully soon Nightwing on a show called Arrow
Steven McQueen is still up in the air as Nightwing on “Arrow.”
So, MAYBE all Dick Grayson fans should go to Arrow’s and CW’s Facebook pages to ENCOURAGE them to bring the character onto the show (and then give him own show, naturally)!
Geoff Johns said he picked Dick Grayson as a target in Forever Evil because of his relation to other characters. Some of us said “what relation?” because he doesn’t seem to have any in the New 52. Is it true though? Unlike Tim Drake, Dick Grayson’s history is largely intact, 5 years timeline notwithstanding, so I decided to look at what’s canon and not canon in New 52 Dick Grayson.
1. Bruce Wayne
Bruce is still Dick’s closest relation. He called for his help investigating a weak link in Arkham Asylum and when Alfred was kidnapped. Dick himself maintain constant connection with Bruce and actively pursued him when he pushed away, constantly offering help and act as a voice of reason. Bruce thinks of him as his savior and he tends to share with him information he doesn’t share with anyone else.
Outside of Batman and Robin #0 and Annual #2 which I haven’t read, we don’t know how their relationship as Batman and Robin developed. Considering their close relationship as adults, I’m going to assume that despite Batman’s initial reluctance, they grew to love each other like a family.
2. Barbara Gordon
Barbara became Batgirl approximately one year after Dick became Robin. She and him dated for a while. Then one day she made a mistake and had to retire. I didn’t know when Dick and her stop dating, and what caused it but it should be around the time he formed The Titans
Currently they’re just friends. Nightwing dated Raya and then Sonia Branch while Batgirl’s dating Ricky. They still maintain contact and respect each other. When Batgirl’s having trouble, it’s Nightwing she called and visit. They still have feelings for each other, but whatever happened made them uneasy to pursue that relationship again.
3. The Titans
I should mention my ground rules when it comes to New 52: If it’s written, it happened. Somewhere during or after Barbara was shot by The Joker and Jason become Robin, Dick Grayson became Nightwing.
He formed a group among heroes his age which included Starfire, Roy Harper, Lilith, Garth, Gar, Dustin and Vic. The group was yet unnamed. Starfire became Dick Grayson’s girlfriend until a bad breakup separated them. Somewhere along the way The Titans disbanded and they went their separate ways.
Starfire’s memory depends on smell, distance and association, though how much of this is true or lying only she knows. She’s avoiding Dick so as not to hurt herself but still keeps his clothing for the fond memories. Currently she’s dating Roy Harper and view Jason Todd as a brother. Together the three of them formed The Outlaws.
Gar had normal human appearance with power to turn into Green Beasts, as seen as when he was caught on news that Tim Drake recorded. He was then captured by Harvest and his experiment turned him into a Red Beast. He then escaped and joined The Ravagers until Deathstroke destroyed them. He was the only survivor and currently joining Tim Drake’s Teen Titans. As far as we know he never saw Dick again until Forever Evil.
Garth returned to Atlantis and as far as we know remained there until now. There are people targeting him because he’s rumored to bring the end of Atlantis, but Orm The Ocean Master protected him. So far this is his only appearance and his age is unclear.
Vic Stone the Cyborg is a member of The Justice League. Why would he join The Titans remain to be seen, but I’d like to guess that it’s because he wishes for a company of teenagers his own age. When Batman introduced Dick Grayson to the Justice League, maybe that’s when the idea of The Titans were formed.
Lilith and Dustin’s fate is unclear. I have no idea who they are and if their New 52 counterpart have appeared yet. There’s a rumor that Harvest’s agent Omen is Lilith, and there’s a hint that she’s brainwashed. She is named Lilith but whether she’s the real Lilith is unclear.
4. Jason Todd
Nightwing was seen training Jason in his memory. How close they were was questionable as Jason was petulant. When he returned as Red Hood, Nightwing saved Batman from being shot by Jason.
When Batman went missing for a year, Nightwing filled in as Batman and took Damian as Robin. Jason Todd became one of his enemies, a vigilante who kill Gotham criminals until he fled Gotham. As far as we know, he never returned to Gotham until Night of The Owls, after Tim Drake and Starfire had mellowed him out.
4. Tim Drake
There were no mentions of Tim’s relationship with Dick Grayson during his time with Batman, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. During Leviathan’s siege on Gotham, Tim partnered with Dick Grayson in their search for the kidnapped Jason Todd and they were friendly throughout.
Then when Dick was kidnapped by The Crime Syndicate, Tim was the first to launch a rescue mission by directly challenging The Syndicate.
5. Damian Wayne
Aside from Bruce, Dick’s closest relationship is with Damian. When Batman went missing, he became Batman for a year with Damian as his Robin. While Damian speaks to him with as much respect as other people, he practically idolizes him when talking about him to Bruce, comparing Bruce’s method as Batman with Dick’s
Damian was there for Nightwing when he was desperate or confused just like he was there to taught him to be a better person. Then they remain with each other up until his death.
6. Justice League
Although Justice League never open membership in their 5 years together except for Martian Manhunter, on their fourth year when Batman went missing Dick filled in as Batman and in extent we can assume The Justice League as well.
Considering New 52 Justice League had a very professional environment where they don’t share personal stories until David Graves forced them to discuss each other’s personal lives, it was unclear how close Dick was to the rest of the League.
Batman and Superman have been working together outside the League for five years without any other members knowing, so it’s possible that with the exception of Clark Kent and Vic Stone, Dick wasn’t as close to the others. Personality wise, he would be friends with Barry and Hal, though.
After The Throne of Atlantis, Nightwing was one of the people considered to be additional members of The Justice League which included Vixen, Zatanna, Goldrush, Element Woman, Blue Devil, Black Lightning, Firestorm, Black Canary, Platinum and Atomica. He stayed long enough to socialize, but because he was practically tricked by Batman to attend, he refused.
Firestorm, Element Woman and Atomica was selected as new members. Zatanna returned to Justice League Dark, Black Canary returned to Birds of Prey, and the rogue Platinum was returned to Dr, Magnus. It is unknown if she will retain her memory in The Justice League. I don’t know where Black Lightning, Blue Devil, Vixen and Goldrush end up.
7. Batman Incorporated
As member of Batman Incorporated, Wingman outranked Nightwing in authority, but Dick was quick to take charge when Batman was unavailable and Jason was kidnapped.
After Damian died, Batman Incorporated was forced to go underground under Talia’s threat. Batman ordered everyone to stand down so he can fight alone, but Nightwing lead all members of Batman Inc to rescue Jason Todd, fought Heretic and Leviathan, then found and disarmed the World Bomb. After Leviathan’s threat was over, everyone went back to their respective country, but Batman Incorporated remained open for business.
8. Batwing and Justice League International
After the Night of The Owls event, Nightwing accompanied David Zavimbe to Africa and then they are joined by Justice League International under Batman’s supervision, which consisted of OMAC Kevin Kho, Godiva, Booster Gold, Guy Gardner, and August General in Iron. Their relationships are strictly professional as far as I can tell, and I don’t know if they exchange numbers, but Nightwing is friendly with David.
Currently the Justice League International has been disbanded. Guy Gardner is in space leading The Red Lanterns. Booster Gold lost his memory and was trapped in Jonah Hex’ era, Kevin Kho became a weapon for Suicide Squad during Forever Evil and I don’t know what happened to Godiva or August General. David Zavimbe has retired as Batwing to be replaced by Luke Fox, but as far as we know they haven’t met yet.
9. Batwoman, Catwoman, and others
Dick was the one who told about Batwoman to Bruce. It is unknown how close they were. At least he knows enough about her enemies. Nightwing was also present to fight Medusa and a horde of mythological monster while Batman was unavailable.
Catwoman wasn’t aware of Dick’s identity, but she’s faced him as Robin. Bette Kane’s membership in Teen Titans was retcon-ed, so as it stands we don’t know if she knows Dick Grayson. Now though with his identity out in the open, everyone who doesn’t know Dick Grayson will know him.
To Recap, Currently Dick’s contacts in New 52 consist of:
- All members of The Bat Family (friendly)
- All members of Batman Incorporated (friendly)
- Red Hood and The Outlaws (distant)
- Justice League core members (professional)
- Justice League extras and candidates (distant professional)
- Batwoman and Hawkfire (professional?)
- Former members of Justice League International (distant professional)
- Former members of The Titans (distant)
- Birds of Prey (professional through Batman, Batgirl and Black Canary)
- Teen Titans (professional through Tim Drake)
I don’t know how much of this is true or matter, or if they will go through with it, but I’d like to list it anyway. His direct contact list are pretty big, and the extended contacts that can grow by association is unlimited, especially after his identity is outed.
What remains after reboot is unclear and I included what would count according to my rule. I’m personally crossing my fingers for my Titans theory to be true. Although Geoff Johns is a New 52 architect, he tends to write in Preboot mode. So we’ll see.
Well done and VERY informative! Thanks for posting it!
Dick Grayson (Robin)
Nightwing Men-up by Van Dorn
I think he’s still wearing too much clothing.
i set some milk down and he puts his whole face in it
(Superman/Batman Annual #1)
How can you not love Bruce and Jason team-ups?
I laughed out loud at Jason’s last line.
Sexy little jailbait bastard.